Top Metal and Hard Rock Tours of the Year, Kiss News, Ozzy Osbourne and Paul Dianno playing Maiden classics (S7 E21)

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hey hey this is this sounds on final show the only show on the internet

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in the world in the universe that will make your fucking ears bleed this week

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we've got the news we've got really expensive fucking vinal according to mike which is

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going to be fun will be right back

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hey hey what is going on my name is phil bowyer as always from across

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the vast open sea where the vikings once ruled is my brother from another mother

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professor rock star extraordinary r mike sinson mike let singer of all bands past present

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in future the fun is going on in this brand new year it's twenty twenty

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three can you believe it it's twenty twenty three

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yeah

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oh

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mother sucker

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yeah

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that's all i had to say i mean ship already

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already

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fuck and were only getting younger

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that's

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aren't

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true

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we

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yeah i mean

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or that's that

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yeah

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that is true

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yeah i mean

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well

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i mean

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i can't believe

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yeah

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it i mean i mean a couple of years ago were sitting here we could

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oh

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go outside because of carved we can go to shows who couldn't go through theaters

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and movies or whatever

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oh

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and i couldn't play shows with

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why

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my bands and all of a sudden fuck me we are like three years later

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and we're still here

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hm

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and we have to deal with

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yes

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this ship every day

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uh

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so i'm thinking we're digging

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ah

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deep in to music this year even deeper were going deep deep

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we're going balls

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deep under

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deep

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cover

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bitches

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i always wanted to say

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oh

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that well since you know this year twenty twenty

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h

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twenty three it's hard to say what the fuck

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i know it is

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yeah

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it's the future

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especially in english

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yeah

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what the fuck i have to i have to learn english at some point fuck

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well how

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doing

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do you how

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a

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do you say

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show

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it

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in

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in

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english

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sweet satan swedish

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she get sugar

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sugar pray okay

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yeah you see

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okay well there you go there you go there's

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there

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your

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we go

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swedish lesson for the for the year so far

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ah

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and if you already know

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so

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swedish

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far

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sorry

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yeah

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tough ship

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yeah and if and if there was an english teacher out there who can teach

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me to to speak proper english please let me know hook

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ah

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me up o d m or something i don't know i don't know where we're

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to go from this but but still i'm thinking that twenty twenty three is a

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year where you are going to see a lot of change on on the sansominal

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podcast

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oh

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and fil have some tricks up our sleeves and and if you have followed the

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show you

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no

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know i've made my one of my dreams

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yeah

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come true i'm

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oh

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opening up a record shop real live one where you have to visit me so

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it's called the sansavinal record story it's going to open

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a

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up

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oh

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during the fall so

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m

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pay close attention to this

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m

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podcast us a lot of cool ship coming up

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yeah

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well to i mean we're talking about vinal records on this show called on on

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bina of course and there's a lot of stuff that

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i

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i've been doing

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by

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buying up stacks

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a

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of vinal records for for this shop and i came across

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oh

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some pretty expensive records that i actually didn't

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no

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know that they were that

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a

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expensive

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m

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because there is a lot of stuff

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m

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that's been going

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no

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on with

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m

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price settings and so for last year i've been told

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m well

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so i had in the ball park i knew

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yeah

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that they were expensive so when i went on disgogand asked some friends i i

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was shocked actually

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m

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so the first one i'm going to show you here

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m give a

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even

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dose

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though well

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let

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let's not go there just going to show it and the reaction from

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yeah

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fail well you know this is a band called song garden and this is yeah

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i know

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that

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this

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that

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is

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there

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the

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is no garden of sound like when i think of a sound garden this is

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not

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yeah

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what i think of

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no

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it

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ut

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oh

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all the other normal people out there i don't know this is the the album

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called

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at

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bad molder finger from nineteen ninety one

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oh

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there's a lot of good stuff on this record but

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now

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nowadays you'll

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have

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have to pay between one

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yeah

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hundred up till two hundred dollars

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what

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for

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the

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this one

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fuck for that

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yeah

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for

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yeah

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that

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yeah you

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jes

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see

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well okay

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yes

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i mean

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yeah

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why

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oh

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it can't be for the music so why is it limited run or what oh

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come on man

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oh

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you see and the other one who this is actually an album that you really

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like

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oh

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an also a shocker for me when it comes to price setting

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oh yes

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queen's rise peris operation mind crime

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great

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also

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record

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from

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i

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nineteen eighty eight it's a great record

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ah

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i agree

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but

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but this one between fifty and hundred dollars

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okay that i can see that i can see

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going going back like

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i

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three four

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o years

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years you can

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yeah

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easily find this one for like twenty thirty

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he

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dollars easily

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yes m

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easily at the lowest it's fifty dollars i think the highest it's over hundred dollars

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so

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m

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between fifty and hundred just to make sure that

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m

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we're

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oh

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on

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dad

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the right track but

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now these prices that you're quoting are they

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oh

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for original pressings or just

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yes

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okay

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no

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all right so these

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there

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are for

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are

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originals

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original

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got okay

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yes

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regardless

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yeah

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regardless of country

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uh

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or like we're talking

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yeah

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for in the case of queen's rike us

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m

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right

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m yes

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okay

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there

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their

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is between like let's say ten to thirty dollars

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okay

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this is european pressing

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okay

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mostly of the stuff that i am going to show her what is european pressing

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otherwise

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the bit

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i will say it's

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yes

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it's a u s pressing

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oh

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so but there is not a big difference between

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ah

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these bands

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oh

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when it comes to two pressings from different countries

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we should do an episode on on that record we've never done queens

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yeah

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on the show

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oh no we haven't

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no we

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fucking

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haven't

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hell

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and

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oh

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in that that record

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oh

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especially that that's a great the warning well the e p the warning and this

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one are my three favorites from queen's rike so

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oh

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yeah

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cool

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so yeah i think we we

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oh

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we need

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and

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we need

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i

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to

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got

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talk

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some

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about this one oh

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oh yeah and i got some stories

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i

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about jeff tate

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okay cool

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and his wife

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and his wife

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and his wife

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oh

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and their manager

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okay

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some good stuff

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wow

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yeah

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or gay stay tuned

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yeah and this one

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ay

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i don't know if you know them it's a swedish band

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a

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from gothenburg called ever grey

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uh seems familiar

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yep

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but i'm going

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they

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to have to say no

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yeah they've been around for quite

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so

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some

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look

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time pretty popular here in sweden bentoriin the world

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yes

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and this

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a

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one it's called hims for the

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a

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broken

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m

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actually ship my pants

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m oh

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uh between one hundred and fifty two like

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i

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two fifty three hundred dollars it's only been printing in like

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i

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a couple of hundred

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okay so it's a limited

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copies

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run so that's why

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it's

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okay

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a limited

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well

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yeah

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okay

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so and this this actually is from like two

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no

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thousand and thirteen i think

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m

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fourteen

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m

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so and it and i said o what the fuck

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oh

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it's a new record but still the amount

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now

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of money jes

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has

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and

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my

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but it's it's it's

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like

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like a friend of mine who is also collector said it's only worth

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i

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this if people

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right

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pay money

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true

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so

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very true

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the price set things are really hard to do and determine the

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but

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value of stuff i mean for me

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oh

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japan is pressing from from them

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you

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kiss

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do yeah

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in the early

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o

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seventies means more

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work

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to me as as as a person that than it does for you because

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oh

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it's a sentimental value for me so

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right

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it's it's really hard to know

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what

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what's what records are worth

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by

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but on

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the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:55

the other hand it's it's always fun go on diskogson and talk to people about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:00

the value of records nowadays and and well people are paying a ship

[phil]: 00:10:06

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:06

load of money for records these days and

[phil]: 00:10:08

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:09

it's in u oration also and

[phil]: 00:10:11

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:12

they

[phil]: 00:10:12

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:12

are discovering vinal records

[phil]: 00:10:16

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:17

in a way

[phil]: 00:10:17

he

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:17

that you and

[phil]: 00:10:18

at

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:18

i i mean we took stuff granted growing up because it was cast tapes and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:24

vinal records

[phil]: 00:10:26

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:26

and seven inch and seven inch singles that that's it we didn't have cads within

[phil]: 00:10:31

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:31

the streaming

[phil]: 00:10:32

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:33

we didn't have pods and what not so we had to

[phil]: 00:10:39

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:39

to rely on the physical format

[phil]: 00:10:43

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:43

and and and what not so

[phil]: 00:10:46

people

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:46

people i mean kids nowadays they tend to pay well

[phil]: 00:10:52

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:53

steep prices for for final record so

[phil]: 00:10:56

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:56

i don't know i think it's a bit much

[phil]: 00:10:59

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:00

i'm i'm a sheep skate

[phil]: 00:11:00

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:01

when it comes to to stuff like

[phil]: 00:11:02

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:02

that i but but it's it's hard when you paid like

[phil]: 00:11:08

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:08

when you have like a kiss album from from the early seventies let's say destroyer

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:14

and you normally pay

[phil]: 00:11:16

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:17

around like twenty we need twenty five dollars for for that and nowadays you have

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:24

to pay between forty and sixty the same album

[phil]: 00:11:28

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:28

and back tracking like five six

[phil]: 00:11:31

you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:31

years ago it's i mean it's a it's a hundred percent increase when it comes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:38

to to the price settings today so it's it's not but hey i don't know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:46

i don't know what's going on

[phil]: 00:11:47

yeah you're you're one of those dudes that i think if you were rich you'd

[phil]: 00:11:52

be like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:53

i

[phil]: 00:11:54

you know how j leno has like this he's got like a thousand different kinds

[phil]: 00:11:59

of cars and stuff like he collects these cars and has like this garage full

[phil]: 00:12:03

of cars

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:03

a

[phil]: 00:12:04

i think you would have a garage

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:05

hm

[phil]: 00:12:05

full of vinal records

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:07

oh

[phil]: 00:12:07

that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:07

yeah

[phil]: 00:12:07

would be you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:08

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:12:08

you were rich and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:09

oh

[phil]: 00:12:09

had that kind of money and you'd be spending

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:11

without a

[phil]: 00:12:11

the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:11

doubt

[phil]: 00:12:12

five hundred thousand dollars on these records and ship you know m h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:19

well yeah

[phil]: 00:12:20

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:21

and that's why i

[phil]: 00:12:23

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:23

am starting a record story

[phil]: 00:12:24

we

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:24

so i can look at a lot of albums

[phil]: 00:12:27

there you go there you go

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:28

both

[phil]: 00:12:28

and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:29

at home and in the shop

[phil]: 00:12:30

yeah and get a discount on records right buy a whole

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:33

oh

[phil]: 00:12:33

sale

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:33

yeah

[phil]: 00:12:34

and then

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:34

you

[phil]: 00:12:34

you get

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:34

see

[phil]: 00:12:34

to discount you get them cheap

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:36

oh man

[phil]: 00:12:37

there you go

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:38

all right so that's it

[phil]: 00:12:41

that's it that's what you got man that's that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:43

yeah

[phil]: 00:12:43

some crazy ship some

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:45

it

[phil]: 00:12:45

crazy

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:45

is

[phil]: 00:12:45

ship

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:45

it is actually

[phil]: 00:12:46

all right let's talk about you you mentioned some of these older bands like kiss

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:51

do

[phil]: 00:12:52

we'll talk about kiss here in a little bit but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:55

hm

[phil]: 00:12:56

we've been talking about some of these

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:57

taking a

[phil]: 00:12:58

you know like should these bands give it up like death leopard and motley crew

[phil]: 00:13:02

and all that i think the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:05

h

[phil]: 00:13:05

definitive answer

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:06

m i

[phil]: 00:13:06

is absolutely fucking not if you judge based on they were the most profitable

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:14

the

[phil]: 00:13:14

tours

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:14

most

[phil]: 00:13:14

in twenty

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:14

able

[phil]: 00:13:14

twenty two

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:16

yeah

[phil]: 00:13:17

it so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:18

yeah

[phil]: 00:13:19

defleppert and motley crew tour made a hundred and seventy three

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:22

yeah

[phil]: 00:13:22

million dollars across

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:24

you do

[phil]: 00:13:24

thirty five shows

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:26

holy crap

[phil]: 00:13:27

guns and roses ninety three million across twenty seven shows

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:32

oh

[phil]: 00:13:33

now

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:33

my

[phil]: 00:13:33

you compare

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:34

oh

[phil]: 00:13:34

that to legendary rolling stones

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:36

i

[phil]: 00:13:37

hundred and seventy nine million across only twenty shows so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:42

m

[phil]: 00:13:43

maiden

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:44

m as

[phil]: 00:13:44

seventy six million across

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:46

a

[phil]: 00:13:46

forty seven shows it took them forty seven shows to get seventy six million i

[phil]: 00:13:52

find that really tough to believe that's just crazy to

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:55

m

[phil]: 00:13:55

me that it took

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:55

m

[phil]: 00:13:55

that many shows

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:57

hm

[phil]: 00:13:57

and then are you a fan

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:59

a

[phil]: 00:13:59

of t s o

[phil]: 00:14:04

i'll take

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:04

no

[phil]: 00:14:04

that as a no i'll take that as a no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:06

yeah oh

[phil]: 00:14:09

well they made i can't read that fifty four million i'm getting all the my

[phil]: 00:14:13

eyes are ship fifty four million across d eight

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:16

oh

[phil]: 00:14:16

shows

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:18

man

[phil]: 00:14:18

see what i love about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:19

what

[phil]: 00:14:19

t

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:19

i love

[phil]: 00:14:20

s o is you got all these metal heads right you got it's basically started

[phil]: 00:14:24

from savatage

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:25

m

[phil]: 00:14:25

the band savatage right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:27

hm

[phil]: 00:14:27

on where i live

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:28

m

[phil]: 00:14:29

you've got all these religious

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:30

all

[phil]: 00:14:30

nut jobs right metal is bad it's the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:34

i

[phil]: 00:14:34

devil it's this it's that but they'll go and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:37

hm

[phil]: 00:14:37

like spend two hundred bucks on a freakingtso ticket

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:40

m

[phil]: 00:14:41

you know and it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:41

hm

[phil]: 00:14:41

like you understand what you're listening to you're listening to the devil's music right okay

[phil]: 00:14:46

we

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:46

yeah

[phil]: 00:14:46

won't go there but but there you go so yeah that's some of the most

[phil]: 00:14:51

profitable tours in twenty twenty it'll be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:53

yeah

[phil]: 00:14:53

interesting to see what twenty twenty three brings

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:58

oh yeah oh yeah

[phil]: 00:15:00

yeah so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:01

it's a lot of cool stuff

[phil]: 00:15:02

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:04

so but but it's it's crazy that you say i mean we've been

[phil]: 00:15:09

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:09

talking on and off about this it should

[phil]: 00:15:12

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:12

these bands call it quits or what but but it's i mean the vast majority

[phil]: 00:15:21

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:21

of people that goes to these shows i mean

[phil]: 00:15:25

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:26

they're they're i mean they're spending their money

[phil]: 00:15:30

yah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:30

and they want this so

[phil]: 00:15:32

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:33

i'm guessing i mean

[phil]: 00:15:35

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:37

now

[phil]: 00:15:37

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:39

i'm i'm thinking to do it is like the personal

[phil]: 00:15:42

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:42

way but now okay people are happy let's leave it at at that but all

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:47

right i have an opinion but

[phil]: 00:15:49

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:49

but it's i don't know i don't know

[phil]: 00:15:52

now you know it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:53

i don't

[phil]: 00:15:54

it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:54

know

[phil]: 00:15:55

it's you know i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:57

i think

[phil]: 00:15:57

the number one grossing band tour wise was i don't know if it's it's a

[phil]: 00:16:02

person or if it's a band called bad bunny or something like that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:06

m

[phil]: 00:16:06

and i don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:07

oh

[phil]: 00:16:07

remember the exact

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:07

don't

[phil]: 00:16:08

number

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:08

remember

[phil]: 00:16:08

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:08

the

[phil]: 00:16:08

it was somewhere

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:08

number

[phil]: 00:16:09

in the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:09

yeah

[phil]: 00:16:09

neighborhood of three hundred and seventy three million or something like that that they made

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:14

oh

[phil]: 00:16:15

i'm like that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:15

am

[phil]: 00:16:16

insane that's insane

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:18

never

[phil]: 00:16:18

i've

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:18

heard

[phil]: 00:16:18

never

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:18

of them

[phil]: 00:16:18

heard of this and for them to make you know that much on a tour

[phil]: 00:16:23

is just crazy and then but but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:25

bad bunny

[phil]: 00:16:26

bad bunny i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:28

damn

[phil]: 00:16:29

i don't know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:30

in hell yeah

[phil]: 00:16:32

i don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:32

that's

[phil]: 00:16:32

know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:32

a

[phil]: 00:16:32

man

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:33

ship bend name

[phil]: 00:16:36

well

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:36

well it is it is

[phil]: 00:16:38

it is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:38

i don't know

[phil]: 00:16:39

but it's it's i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:40

it

[phil]: 00:16:40

don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:40

is

[phil]: 00:16:40

know it's interesting though that you've got some of these old or bands though like

[phil]: 00:16:44

crew and and deffleperd i mean i know duff lepers still putting out music but

[phil]: 00:16:49

um

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:49

yeah

[phil]: 00:16:51

well if you want to call it music

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:52

yes

[phil]: 00:16:52

um

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:53

oh oh

[phil]: 00:16:55

but but that that they're still able to rake up the dope and what was

[phil]: 00:17:00

interesting is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:01

we

[phil]: 00:17:01

on this article that i read lika wasn't on it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:05

oh

[phil]: 00:17:05

so i don't know if they

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:06

so

[phil]: 00:17:06

were just

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:07

i don't

[phil]: 00:17:07

really

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:07

know

[phil]: 00:17:07

low i didn't there was a full list that i didn't i read but when

[phil]: 00:17:11

i was preparing for the shot and go back to it um so i don't

[phil]: 00:17:14

know where metallic

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:15

i don't

[phil]: 00:17:15

was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:15

know

[phil]: 00:17:15

on that list but i got to imagine they were pretty high on that list

[phil]: 00:17:19

so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:20

they have to be

[phil]: 00:17:21

he

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:21

i

[phil]: 00:17:21

have

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:21

don't know

[phil]: 00:17:21

to be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:22

but but it's yeah

[phil]: 00:17:23

but anyway

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:24

that's crazy

[phil]: 00:17:25

that's crazy

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:25

yeah speaking of older bands did you see the post at mickidi did to

[phil]: 00:17:33

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:33

celebrate lami on on i mean it's like seven years since he passed

[phil]: 00:17:39

i know i can't believe it's seven

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:40

h

[phil]: 00:17:40

years already

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:41

h no

[phil]: 00:17:41

jesus

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:42

no it's nuts and even though

[phil]: 00:17:46

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:46

that he is touring with the scorpions at the

[phil]: 00:17:50

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:50

moment there was he there was a whole story that that he wrote it was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:56

really sentimental to read but but it's i mean for

[phil]: 00:18:01

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:01

i mean since like the early nineties up until lem passed away like seven years

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:07

ago he was a member of motor head and is a big part of his

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:11

life and he did a very very nice celebration to let me

[phil]: 00:18:18

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:19

and it was really really cool to see

[phil]: 00:18:21

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:22

and it's i mean

[phil]: 00:18:24

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:25

i think that the quote was at the end don't don't cry over your beer

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:34

drink it or something like that

[phil]: 00:18:37

love it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:37

and signed lammy so so i mean we should celebrate people like that and i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:44

think that that micky did a really nice thing to

[phil]: 00:18:49

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:49

remember lammy i mean were me and my son the other day we

[phil]: 00:18:57

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:57

spoke about this and and

[phil]: 00:18:59

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:02

all the big bands that he's discovering

[phil]: 00:19:04

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:05

has a chance to see at the moment i mean he's seen kiss already alice

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:11

cooper maiden saxon

[phil]: 00:19:16

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:16

it wants to see you as priest we're going to see metallic

[phil]: 00:19:19

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:19

and next year and

[phil]: 00:19:21

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:21

so forth and

[phil]: 00:19:22

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:23

and

[phil]: 00:19:24

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:24

i told them we should do this now because we don't know when when they

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:30

are calling it quits for good we went to see kiss um last year and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:39

and said this is this is it is the end of the road it's no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:44

more kiss after this

[phil]: 00:19:45

maybe

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:46

and

[phil]: 00:19:46

maybe teaser

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:47

maybe yeah

[phil]: 00:19:48

teaser

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:48

yeah

[phil]: 00:19:48

i've got

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:48

these

[phil]: 00:19:49

a story

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:49

are

[phil]: 00:19:49

about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:49

tsar

[phil]: 00:19:50

i've got a story

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:50

yeah

[phil]: 00:19:50

about that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:52

oh yeah but it's i'm afraid

[phil]: 00:19:56

you should

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:57

but

[phil]: 00:19:57

be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:57

but it's we talked about this so who's up who's next with the arena band

[phil]: 00:20:07

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:07

and i couldn't figure it out

[phil]: 00:20:10

on

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:10

i really couldn't figure

[phil]: 00:20:11

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:12

it out when when guns roses metallic

[phil]: 00:20:18

o

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:19

maiden

[phil]: 00:20:20

eh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:22

well those are like the biggest names right now the flapper

[phil]: 00:20:26

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:27

well at some point

[phil]: 00:20:29

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:29

motley crew has been away for for a couple of years but

[phil]: 00:20:33

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:34

when they call it quits for good who's gonna who's next

[phil]: 00:20:41

there is no body there is no buddy

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:43

no

[phil]: 00:20:44

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:44

i mean so

[phil]: 00:20:45

bad

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:45

somebody

[phil]: 00:20:45

bunny

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:46

said oh no

[phil]: 00:20:48

i don't know man

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:49

somebody said the food fires but but that that's not hard ark or metal so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:55

i'm thinking only

[phil]: 00:20:56

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:56

hardrockand mental at the moment i mean

[phil]: 00:20:59

where are the food fighters

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:00

is

[phil]: 00:21:00

even still technically a band i mean we've not really

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:04

yeah

[phil]: 00:21:04

heard

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:05

yeah

[phil]: 00:21:05

anything about that you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:07

no

[phil]: 00:21:07

i know dave grol's been doing

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:08

no

[phil]: 00:21:08

some stuff is his honaca shows but is there

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:11

m m

[phil]: 00:21:13

you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:13

well i don't know but but there's a band that oh playing arenas

[phil]: 00:21:20

hm but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:21

but

[phil]: 00:21:23

i think it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:23

i don't know

[phil]: 00:21:24

it's pop it's all pop it's taylor swift it's whatever i don't even know i

[phil]: 00:21:29

couldn't even tell you i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:30

no

[phil]: 00:21:30

just run

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:31

no

[phil]: 00:21:31

from that stuff so much i couldn't even give you tell you he bandonebut

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:35

but is there any any younger metal bents the cic

[phil]: 00:21:40

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:40

of maiden and and metallic or

[phil]: 00:21:44

or

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:45

at least

[phil]: 00:21:45

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:46

under way to becoming the next big thing

[phil]: 00:21:50

as much as i hate to say it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:52

i

[phil]: 00:21:52

i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:52

yeah

[phil]: 00:21:52

ghost has a chance

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:55

oh

[phil]: 00:21:55

to get there

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:56

oh yeah i forgot about those

[phil]: 00:21:58

um

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:59

i don't like them i don't like them at all

[phil]: 00:22:01

i like a couple of songs

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:02

i

[phil]: 00:22:02

but for the most part yeah i'm with you this

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:04

yeah

[phil]: 00:22:04

this last record i don't even know what the fuck it was but um yeah

[phil]: 00:22:09

i think there they've got us so i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:11

yeah

[phil]: 00:22:11

think you still

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:12

they got a shot

[phil]: 00:22:12

you know but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:13

ye

[phil]: 00:22:13

i think if i'm if i'm thinking like no there's really nobody

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:18

ah

[phil]: 00:22:18

of that caliber that's coming up

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:20

no

[phil]: 00:22:20

behind the metallic as pre maidens all these

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:23

yeah

[phil]: 00:22:23

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:26

it's

[phil]: 00:22:26

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:26

crazy to think about

[phil]: 00:22:27

m yeah i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:29

i

[phil]: 00:22:29

food fighters could replace

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:31

just

[phil]: 00:22:31

you tube and that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:34

ah

[phil]: 00:22:34

alternative

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:34

yeah

[phil]: 00:22:35

rock but i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:36

yeah

[phil]: 00:22:36

those guys aren't aren't that young either though for being honest you know so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:42

davy is born in sixty nine so he's like two years

[phil]: 00:22:46

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:46

older than me

[phil]: 00:22:47

yeah so i mean he's he's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:49

so

[phil]: 00:22:49

got another

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:50

yeah

[phil]: 00:22:50

twenty years

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:50

is getting

[phil]: 00:22:50

i guess if you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:52

yeah

[phil]: 00:22:52

um so i don't know man yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:56

i don't

[phil]: 00:22:56

it's a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:57

i

[phil]: 00:22:57

it's an interesting concept it's an interesting thing to think about because you know i've

[phil]: 00:23:03

said this you know i've been shy about saying you know music me pretty much

[phil]: 00:23:08

died in the in the nineties all the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:12

hm

[phil]: 00:23:12

legends that we had kind of went away and were replaced by the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:17

yeah

[phil]: 00:23:17

soudan gardens and their nirvana and all that stuff

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:20

m

[phil]: 00:23:20

and in those

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:21

hm

[phil]: 00:23:21

bands weren't say what you want to like you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:25

what

[phil]: 00:23:25

can like sound garden and vana but they weren't the same caliber

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:30

oh

[phil]: 00:23:30

as a priest or a maiden or led zepplin or a sabbath

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:34

m

[phil]: 00:23:36

you can have good music but not be of that caliber if

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:40

m

[phil]: 00:23:40

you know what i'm saying

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:41

m

[phil]: 00:23:42

right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:42

yeah but i mean we we see say

[phil]: 00:23:46

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:46

that in in you and

[phil]: 00:23:48

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:48

i have a different opinion about those bands because i'm not necessarily

[phil]: 00:23:54

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:55

thinking that there are the best thing

[phil]: 00:23:58

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:58

i think there were necessary for the next thing

[phil]: 00:24:02

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:04

it's sort of like

[phil]: 00:24:04

i what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:06

when

[phil]: 00:24:06

rot

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:06

rock the streets in the seventies

[phil]: 00:24:11

so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:11

some sort of like because i remember seeing in arana we talked about this seeing

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:16

nevada on m t v and thinking ho lay fuck

[phil]: 00:24:22

o that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:22

that's the end of

[phil]: 00:24:23

okay

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:23

the f t the poodle rock era the hair metal bands so so i was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:32

happy about that ah

[phil]: 00:24:34

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:34

and all of a sudden there was more aggressive music coming on the scene

[phil]: 00:24:42

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:42

with all the death metal stuff that came out i was thrilled about

[phil]: 00:24:48

so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:48

so i think that's sort of

[phil]: 00:24:51

like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:51

like putting

[phil]: 00:24:53

to get

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:53

an end to all those poisons britany fuck

[phil]: 00:24:56

oh yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:59

what not it

[phil]: 00:25:01

has

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:01

had to be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:05

would it would

[phil]: 00:25:06

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:06

i be more happy if it wasn't another punk rock revolution of course punk rock

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:14

music is

[phil]: 00:25:15

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:15

way cooler but but it was necessary

[phil]: 00:25:18

sary

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:19

to make a statement sad enough of this hollywood crap we need to go back

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:25

to the music to the roots guitar

[phil]: 00:25:29

are

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:29

drums

[phil]: 00:25:30

the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:30

and a base guitar and somebody

[phil]: 00:25:33

by

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:34

sinks enough

[phil]: 00:25:35

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:35

of the keyboards enough of the glamor enough of the other crap that has no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:41

part

[phil]: 00:25:41

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:41

of it says

[phil]: 00:25:42

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:42

i who likes kiss but

[phil]: 00:25:44

you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:44

you

[phil]: 00:25:44

know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:44

know what i mean so to tay that into the next thing for i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:51

say what you will about the music that came afterwards but all of a sudden

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:56

slayer what

[phil]: 00:25:57

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:57

was relevant again in the early nineties

[phil]: 00:26:01

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:02

there were making music and people like

[phil]: 00:26:07

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:07

entombed and palm death at the gates and and what not they looked up to

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:15

people like slayer and and those kinds of bands so

[phil]: 00:26:20

he

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:20

it

[phil]: 00:26:20

was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:20

was

[phil]: 00:26:21

not

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:21

not or it field itself i think

[phil]: 00:26:24

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:24

so it was a necessary evil for you and

[phil]: 00:26:27

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:27

i think

[phil]: 00:26:27

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:28

it was a good thing so if you know what i mean if you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:31

what i mean so but i agree to you

[phil]: 00:26:34

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:34

at some extent i agree with you but it's i could

[phil]: 00:26:39

he

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:39

see that coming it has had to stop i mean the

[phil]: 00:26:43

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:43

bonjovis of arenas that i mean the

[phil]: 00:26:46

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:46

salt

[phil]: 00:26:47

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:47

fuck in hell a lot of tickets and it's a show and it's i don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:53

know i don't know but that

[phil]: 00:26:54

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:55

but but it's

[phil]: 00:26:56

well

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:57

well give it to me

[phil]: 00:26:59

it is what it is man it is what it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:01

it

[phil]: 00:27:01

is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:01

is

[phil]: 00:27:02

i don't know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:02

yes

[phil]: 00:27:03

we'll see we'll see how it goes but you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:05

yeah

[phil]: 00:27:07

i think we can

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:09

oh

[phil]: 00:27:09

the ultimate blame i think is on the record labels by not giving

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:13

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:27:14

artists

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:14

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:27:15

the freedom to do you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:18

yes

[phil]: 00:27:18

know to be the next boy

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:20

the next

[phil]: 00:27:21

or zepplin

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:21

we

[phil]: 00:27:22

or sabbath or

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:24

hm

[phil]: 00:27:24

whatever you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:25

yes

[phil]: 00:27:25

even the eagles

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:26

yeah

[phil]: 00:27:27

to a certain extent right i mean that we just we don't have that that

[phil]: 00:27:31

luxury because they need to sell because they're not selling anything anyway and so they

[phil]: 00:27:36

need to maximize whatever they can sell that they need to sign

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:40

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:27:40

artists that they feel they can sell instead of looking go and this is this

[phil]: 00:27:45

is awesome music and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:46

post

[phil]: 00:27:46

let's make this happen

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:47

m

[phil]: 00:27:48

and let's kick

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:48

m

[phil]: 00:27:48

some ass

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:49

oh

[phil]: 00:27:49

and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:49

yeah

[phil]: 00:27:49

let's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:50

yeah

[phil]: 00:27:51

you know let's do this stuff and it's just not happening

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:54

no

[phil]: 00:27:55

just not

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:55

you

[phil]: 00:27:55

happening

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:55

should watch the documentary about sound city the record studio that

[phil]: 00:28:02

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:02

came out in the in the in the

[phil]: 00:28:04

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:04

seventies and and have recorded i mean rage against the machine nirvana fleetwood max stephen

[phil]: 00:28:12

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:13

nick tom patty you should watch that documentary on the analogue

[phil]: 00:28:17

a boy

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:18

recording

[phil]: 00:28:19

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:20

and there as a

[phil]: 00:28:21

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:21

uh when when they

[phil]: 00:28:24

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:24

went into to

[phil]: 00:28:25

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:25

the digital recording

[phil]: 00:28:27

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:28

ah and that this studio wouldn't have anything to do with the digital

[phil]: 00:28:34

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:34

sound the pro tools and the what not

[phil]: 00:28:37

m yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:37

they stayed analogue and

[phil]: 00:28:39

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:40

and dave gral he bought that whole console

[phil]: 00:28:44

oh yeah yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:45

and put

[phil]: 00:28:46

i saw

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:46

it up

[phil]: 00:28:46

that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:46

in a studio yeah yeah

[phil]: 00:28:48

when

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:48

and

[phil]: 00:28:49

when the dude from a c d c i can only think of one

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:53

yeah

[phil]: 00:28:53

brian

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:53

brian

[phil]: 00:28:54

johnson

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:54

johnson

[phil]: 00:28:54

when when he did

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:55

yeah

[phil]: 00:28:55

that van tour thing that he's been doing

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:57

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:28:57

and he went

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:58

yeah

[phil]: 00:28:58

and hooked up with dave growl and they went to the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:00

yeah

[phil]: 00:29:00

studio and showed that that was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:02

yeah

[phil]: 00:29:02

fucking epic

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:03

yeah

[phil]: 00:29:03

man i'm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:03

yeah

[phil]: 00:29:03

looking at that going

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:04

and

[phil]: 00:29:04

i wouldn't even know what the hell to do with that that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:08

and there's

[phil]: 00:29:08

to oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:09

there's a thing in

[phil]: 00:29:11

and the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:12

there's a quote that that i need to address there is a woman working in

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:17

the sancti studio wasn't the fanciest studio ever there was something about the

[phil]: 00:29:24

yeah i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:25

the atmosphere in there in there that made bands do all this great stuff and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:31

she said if you're not recording analogue you're not a real

[phil]: 00:29:38

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:38

man and this comes from a woman

[phil]: 00:29:43

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:43

and and and i just froze and and i was alone watching this thing

[phil]: 00:29:49

h oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:50

anybody hear this and i had to rewind and said

[phil]: 00:29:53

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:54

what the fuck so but that's

[phil]: 00:29:57

well

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:58

and she was sad and disappointed because she has been working there for like three

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:02

or something like that and i understand i had the privilege to

[phil]: 00:30:08

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:08

to be able

[phil]: 00:30:08

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:08

to record on those reels those big reels

[phil]: 00:30:14

wow

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:14

on on

[phil]: 00:30:15

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:15

on analogue tape

[phil]: 00:30:17

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:17

and have

[phil]: 00:30:18

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:18

the producer

[phil]: 00:30:19

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:19

go like this where you see them

[phil]: 00:30:22

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:23

cutting the tape by hand it's it's it's fucking insane every ber when we started

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:30

recording dasatilly and i think in

[phil]: 00:30:32

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:35

well

[phil]: 00:30:35

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:36

shut shouldn't we be in the room playing together now that's a new thing

[phil]: 00:30:41

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:42

you don't have to okay so we're recording separately

[phil]: 00:30:46

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:47

and we we'll

[phil]: 00:30:49

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:49

cut it up so it's going to be good

[phil]: 00:30:51

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:52

and it's

[phil]: 00:30:52

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:53

it's still

[phil]: 00:30:54

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:54

mind blong today that we can still do this

[phil]: 00:30:57

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:57

but we don't have to pay for expensive

[phil]: 00:31:00

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:00

yes tudiotime any more we have our own studio and we can do whatever

[phil]: 00:31:05

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:05

fucking we want whenever we want so

[phil]: 00:31:08

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:08

without paying

[phil]: 00:31:09

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:09

ship load of money for it but

[phil]: 00:31:11

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:11

i'm

[phil]: 00:31:11

just

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:11

just glad but i ve been able

[phil]: 00:31:14

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:15

to have the

[phil]: 00:31:16

it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:16

fortunate to being recording on analogue tape so so watch that if you if you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:22

haven't people are there if you haven't watched that sounds a documentary

[phil]: 00:31:27

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:27

do it it's

[phil]: 00:31:28

do

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:28

it's

[phil]: 00:31:28

it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:29

fucking insane do it now

[phil]: 00:31:30

make it happen

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:32

yes

[phil]: 00:31:33

well

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:33

what else

[phil]: 00:31:34

well we were talking about an iron maiden earlier and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:37

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:31:38

and a couple of guys that you know or have met oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:40

oh yeah i'm scaring

[phil]: 00:31:41

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:41

it right now

[phil]: 00:31:42

yes it is paul diana

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:44

it

[phil]: 00:31:45

paul diano

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:46

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:31:47

and gus g got together in

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:50

m

[phil]: 00:31:50

um i'm drawing a blank on the country greece got together in greece on

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:56

m

[phil]: 00:31:56

stage and gus g played guitar

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:58

hm

[phil]: 00:31:58

and they

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:58

oh

[phil]: 00:31:59

played all the classics off the first two maiden records

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:04

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:32:04

and actually it sounded pretty fucking good wasn't bad

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:09

m

[phil]: 00:32:13

if you're not watching the video

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:14

i

[phil]: 00:32:15

like the look on mike's face is like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:17

oh

[phil]: 00:32:17

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:18

oh i have to say this i was

[phil]: 00:32:23

m i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:24

thinking that you weren't going gonna go with kiss first but i actually watch

[phil]: 00:32:29

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:30

this

[phil]: 00:32:30

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:31

just minutes before we started recording this

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:38

i don't know i don't know what to say

[phil]: 00:32:41

okay

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:41

i mean

[phil]: 00:32:42

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:43

it's

[phil]: 00:32:43

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:43

paul diana and it's

[phil]: 00:32:47

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:49

i'm lost for words i don't know what to say the dude is sitting in

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:54

a wheel chair

[phil]: 00:32:55

yeah oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:57

front and center stage singing all those tunes

[phil]: 00:33:02

but he's out there doing it though man he's out there doing it i mean

[phil]: 00:33:05

yeah that's not the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:06

oh

[phil]: 00:33:06

best option but he's out there doing it i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:11

yeah

[phil]: 00:33:11

and it's got to be tough to sing sitting in a wheel chair too right

[phil]: 00:33:15

i mean just the mechanics

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:16

m

[phil]: 00:33:16

of singing you know you could probably

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:18

are you

[phil]: 00:33:19

speak

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:19

hearing yourself right now

[phil]: 00:33:21

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:21

he's sitting in a wheel chair

[phil]: 00:33:23

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:25

isn't i mean

[phil]: 00:33:27

well you don't think he should be out there in wiltshire oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:32

i don't think he should be out there at all

[phil]: 00:33:34

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:35

i don't know

[phil]: 00:33:37

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:37

i mean if you're

[phil]: 00:33:38

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:39

not able to walk on your two

[phil]: 00:33:42

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:42

feet up when it be time to call it quits

[phil]: 00:33:49

you know i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:50

m okay

[phil]: 00:33:50

that depends i think that depends because i could i could say that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:54

m

[phil]: 00:33:54

you know when dave growl broke his leg in the middle of the concert that

[phil]: 00:33:58

you were at

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:58

oh

[phil]: 00:33:59

she should have gone

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:59

that's not the same

[phil]: 00:34:01

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:01

thing

[phil]: 00:34:01

it it kind of is he went out there for the fans and the fans

[phil]: 00:34:05

wanted to see that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:06

yeah

[phil]: 00:34:06

and he went out there

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:07

yeah

[phil]: 00:34:07

and honestly was was he did he sound as good as he did in the

[phil]: 00:34:11

day hell no fun no not many singers do but he didn't sound that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:15

ah

[phil]: 00:34:15

bad i didn't think he sounded

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:16

no

[phil]: 00:34:16

that there was some notes he couldn't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:19

yes

[phil]: 00:34:20

he tried to hit and couldn't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:21

do you know

[phil]: 00:34:21

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:22

why he's seen in wheel share

[phil]: 00:34:23

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:23

polyana

[phil]: 00:34:24

because he's all fucked up

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:26

yeah

[phil]: 00:34:27

he's all fucked up

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:28

he's

[phil]: 00:34:28

on

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:29

so

[phil]: 00:34:29

his

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:29

fucked

[phil]: 00:34:29

own on

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:29

up

[phil]: 00:34:29

his own accord to i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:31

yeah

[phil]: 00:34:31

yea he did it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:32

yeah

[phil]: 00:34:32

to himself

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:34

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:34:34

he admits that he you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:36

the

[phil]: 00:34:36

know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:37

yeah

[phil]: 00:34:38

he's not

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:39

yes

[phil]: 00:34:39

you know he's done some things that are are less than respectable we could say

[phil]: 00:34:44

um

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:44

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:34:45

you know i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:46

oh

[phil]: 00:34:46

i don't know the guy i've never met him i don't know how he is

[phil]: 00:34:49

as a person i know he's done something that i don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:52

m

[phil]: 00:34:52

approve of and you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:54

m

[phil]: 00:34:54

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:55

i met him a couple of times he's he's a nice dude is a really

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:59

nice dude but but it's

[phil]: 00:35:02

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:04

well well i don't know i don't know i don't know i met blake bailey

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:11

too and he's even nicer but

[phil]: 00:35:13

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:13

but it's i don't know i don't know

[phil]: 00:35:15

but he's kind of like a whiny little bitch kind of like dave mistaine

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:19

what

[phil]: 00:35:20

when it comes to motley crew and all that oh no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:23

who

[phil]: 00:35:23

never mind never mind

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:25

yeah

[phil]: 00:35:25

don't the only i'm thinking

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:26

m

[phil]: 00:35:27

of somebody else never

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:28

m

[phil]: 00:35:28

mind

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:29

okay

[phil]: 00:35:30

never

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:30

all

[phil]: 00:35:30

mind

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:30

right

[phil]: 00:35:30

never mind

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:31

so

[phil]: 00:35:31

ignore me ignore

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:32

okay

[phil]: 00:35:32

me

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:33

okay okay rip the bandage off with kiss why don't you come on man

[phil]: 00:35:37

kiss well kiss is going to be around forever in

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:42

ah

[phil]: 00:35:42

and ever and ever so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:44

fucking knew it

[phil]: 00:35:45

you know we've heard the rumblings gen simmons s mate has made comments about you

[phil]: 00:35:50

know it's not out of the possibility

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:53

the

[phil]: 00:35:53

that you know other people could

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:56

i

[phil]: 00:35:56

become kiss right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:58

yeah

[phil]: 00:35:58

and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:35:59

yeah

[phil]: 00:36:00

people are like well now and then most

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:03

the

[phil]: 00:36:04

recently paul stanley based ally said yeah yeah they can let me try to see

[phil]: 00:36:10

if i can find the quote here um

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:13

oh come on

[phil]: 00:36:14

m kiss is like an army

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:18

like an

[phil]: 00:36:18

or

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:18

army

[phil]: 00:36:18

a sports team

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:19

i

[phil]: 00:36:20

when the m v p is no longer playing

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:22

is

[phil]: 00:36:22

or retired the team doesn't call it quits

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:24

he

[phil]: 00:36:24

on a battle field

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:26

battled

[phil]: 00:36:26

an army when they lose soldier

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:28

and the

[phil]: 00:36:28

doesn't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:28

soldier

[phil]: 00:36:29

wave the white

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:29

doesn't

[phil]: 00:36:29

flag somebody else picks

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:31

some

[phil]: 00:36:31

up the weapon and runs forward

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:33

one

[phil]: 00:36:33

so in one form

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:35

one

[phil]: 00:36:35

or another

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:36

or another

[phil]: 00:36:36

i believe

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:37

believe

[phil]: 00:36:37

there will always be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:39

as

[phil]: 00:36:40

a kiss oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:42

oh you're killing me right now fucking

[phil]: 00:36:44

hey

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:45

hell

[phil]: 00:36:46

that's kiss that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:47

oh

[phil]: 00:36:47

paul stanley right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:48

man

[phil]: 00:36:48

there

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:49

oh yeah i know

[phil]: 00:36:51

you know so kiss

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:51

i know

[phil]: 00:36:52

will be around forever so this may be the end of the road for the

[phil]: 00:36:56

current line up of kiss the article did say

[michael_c_svensson] 00:36:59

all

[phil]: 00:36:59

something about you know maybe this is this this version of kiss will be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:03

i

[phil]: 00:37:03

done and then it will re invent itself for another

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:06

ye

[phil]: 00:37:07

round

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:07

yeah

[phil]: 00:37:07

and it will just keep wing and go on

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:09

oh

[phil]: 00:37:09

for ever and ever

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:11

yeah

[phil]: 00:37:11

and ever and ever and yes i don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:16

yes

[phil]: 00:37:16

know i don't know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:17

no man you would think that i have an opinion about this

[phil]: 00:37:24

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:24

you think that but no

[phil]: 00:37:27

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:28

i i'm lost for words i've they've been talking about this for a couple of

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:33

couple

[phil]: 00:37:33

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:34

of years doing auditions with younger

[phil]: 00:37:38

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:39

musicians taking their place i don't know i don't know what's going on i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:45

in at the end of the road now they're coming back

[phil]: 00:37:48

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:48

to

[phil]: 00:37:49

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:49

europe again and people are going you should see them again no i had my

[michael_c_svensson] 00:37:55

good bye it was emotional i said farewell not any more fuck it leave

[phil]: 00:38:05

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:05

me alone for crying out loud let me have this moment it was a beautiful

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:11

moment they played like one of the best shows i've ever seen

[phil]: 00:38:15

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:16

the somewhat twenty shows that i've seen with kiss

[phil]: 00:38:19

yet

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:19

and it's

[phil]: 00:38:20

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:20

i

[phil]: 00:38:20

don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:20

don't know

[phil]: 00:38:21

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:21

i don't know what's going on

[phil]: 00:38:23

so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:23

i don't know

[phil]: 00:38:24

so if they do re invent themselves let's say in

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:27

so

[phil]: 00:38:27

like five years a new kiss for new members right paul jean all those guys

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:32

oh

[phil]: 00:38:32

they're no longer of the band it's it's four new guys

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:35

m

[phil]: 00:38:36

would you give it a chance

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:36

hm no

[phil]: 00:38:38

no oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:40

no

[phil]: 00:38:40

okay interesting

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:42

shan's maybe but i would like

[phil]: 00:38:44

i oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:47

close one of my eyes and cover my and and do like this if you're

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:52

watching you tube right now i would do like this and maybe

[phil]: 00:38:57

maybe just maybe

[michael_c_svensson] 00:38:59

go take a sneak

[phil]: 00:39:00

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:00

peak but that's not kiss kiss

[phil]: 00:39:03

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:03

for me is something else

[phil]: 00:39:06

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:06

i mean i'm still stuck in nineteen

[phil]: 00:39:08

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:09

seventy three right before the day

[phil]: 00:39:13

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:14

it all broke for them they went i mean it's it's i'm so fascinated about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:24

when they became kids when they were still roaming the

[phil]: 00:39:28

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:28

streets of new york city and still played

[phil]: 00:39:31

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:31

at tennis twenty third street where were horse space were and the

[phil]: 00:39:38

my

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:39

first album

[phil]: 00:39:40

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:40

hotter in hell the first

[phil]: 00:39:41

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:42

tour the second tour up to kiss alive i mean

[phil]: 00:39:47

my

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:47

my

[phil]: 00:39:48

god

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:48

god that's kiss for me

[phil]: 00:39:50

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:51

it really is i mean i'm so happy about all the odor albums that they

[michael_c_svensson] 00:39:57

did in the seventies but by the other stuff it's i mean i love them

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:03

till death i mean i still collect

[phil]: 00:40:06

was oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:08

the old stuff and i keep

[phil]: 00:40:11

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:11

my ear to do ground when when it comes to everything else that that has

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:16

to do with with the band but it's no enough

[phil]: 00:40:20

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:20

is enough i had my good bye in twenty twenty two i'm so happy i'm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:27

so thankful for all the music

[phil]: 00:40:28

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:29

but that's it that's it

[phil]: 00:40:32

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:33

that was the end of the road for me

[phil]: 00:40:35

see i don't agree with paul stanley

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:37

i don't

[phil]: 00:40:37

i don't think it's like a sports team or an army because it's you've got

[phil]: 00:40:45

with sports you've almost anybody

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:49

almost anybody

[phil]: 00:40:49

could be trained to do a certain kind of sport right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:54

hm

[phil]: 00:40:55

i guess you could argue

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:56

i guess

[phil]: 00:40:57

certain

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:57

all

[phil]: 00:40:57

extent the same thing for

[michael_c_svensson] 00:40:58

yes

[phil]: 00:40:59

music but i do

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:00

ah

[phil]: 00:41:00

feel like with

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:01

white

[phil]: 00:41:01

music there are certain

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:03

oh

[phil]: 00:41:03

musicians um that just like eddie van helen and jimmy hendrix they just had a

[phil]: 00:41:09

way with the guitar that nobody else did

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:12

yeah

[phil]: 00:41:12

they're sure there are

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:14

there are

[phil]: 00:41:14

jimmy page is a great guitars but he's no jimmy hendrix right so i feel

[phil]: 00:41:20

like it's a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:20

like

[phil]: 00:41:20

bit different when you've got you know a sports team is like twenty sonat players

[phil]: 00:41:27

right depending on the sport you you're talking about a band that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:32

oh

[phil]: 00:41:33

anywhere between four and six

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:34

yeah

[phil]: 00:41:35

you know members that's a very tight

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:38

that's

[phil]: 00:41:38

net and there's a certain talent that all messes together in a certain way

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:43

m

[phil]: 00:41:43

to create

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:44

m

[phil]: 00:41:45

that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:45

oh

[phil]: 00:41:45

kind of thing it's also very creative sports isn't creative

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:49

m

[phil]: 00:41:50

and army is not creative

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:52

m

[phil]: 00:41:53

it's you know music is a very creative thing there's a lot of stuff that

[phil]: 00:41:56

has to come together to build a song um

[michael_c_svensson] 00:41:59

m

[phil]: 00:41:59

and a lot of talent from

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:00

m

[phil]: 00:42:00

a lot

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:00

a

[phil]: 00:42:00

of different directions to create that music and so i don't i don't think it's

[phil]: 00:42:05

the same thing and i don't think you get four different guys in there it's

[phil]: 00:42:08

not going to be the same band it's going to be it might be good

[phil]: 00:42:12

it might be awesome and might be the next arena band that we were trying

[phil]: 00:42:15

to find earlier but i don't think you could call that kiss because it's not

[phil]: 00:42:21

the same energy

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:21

no

[phil]: 00:42:21

it's not the same thing right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:24

yeah yeah

[phil]: 00:42:27

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:28

and

[phil]: 00:42:28

may

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:28

maybe it's because i mean maybe i'm afraid

[phil]: 00:42:33

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:33

i don't know but but it's i'm i well

[phil]: 00:42:39

well

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:39

it's too much it's too fucking weird to think about it's

[phil]: 00:42:43

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:43

too fucking weird to think about

[phil]: 00:42:45

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:46

so but but you mentioned so i'm calling this to

[phil]: 00:42:52

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:53

halt college quits and moving on to you said

[phil]: 00:42:58

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:42:59

van helen

[phil]: 00:43:01

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:03

it makes

[phil]: 00:43:03

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:03

me really

[phil]: 00:43:04

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:04

happy say

[phil]: 00:43:06

it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:06

what

[phil]: 00:43:06

was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:06

you will but

[phil]: 00:43:07

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:07

still today

[phil]: 00:43:08

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:10

van helen and and edivanhalen's music

[phil]: 00:43:13

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:13

and his d n

[phil]: 00:43:15

thank

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:16

is still live

[phil]: 00:43:17

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:18

in his son i mean wolfgutn van helen i mean have you heard this dude

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:25

play guitar talking about

[phil]: 00:43:27

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:27

divan helen i mean he's got i mean a massive

[phil]: 00:43:31

eh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:32

amount on his

[phil]: 00:43:33

you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:33

shoulders to come

[phil]: 00:43:35

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:35

up with and near his father but

[phil]: 00:43:40

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:40

he is doing a great job is a really skilled guitar player and he writes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:48

all his music

[phil]: 00:43:49

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:49

yeah by himself

[phil]: 00:43:50

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:50

place all the instrument

[phil]: 00:43:52

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:52

and

[phil]: 00:43:53

now

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:53

now all of a sudden people are thinking that he is selfish

[phil]: 00:43:59

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:43:59

i mean to read the headlines about

[phil]: 00:44:02

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:03

he has to defend himself for doing it all

[phil]: 00:44:07

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:07

i mean

[phil]: 00:44:08

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:09

it's crazy

[phil]: 00:44:09

great

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:10

to think i

[phil]: 00:44:11

okay

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:11

mean if you're

[phil]: 00:44:12

watch

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:13

watching that tribute to tell hawkins the food fighters

[phil]: 00:44:17

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:18

drummer former he played

[phil]: 00:44:21

like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:21

some of the devon hail stuff i mean he's

[phil]: 00:44:25

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:26

a real musician and i'm so happy that he's

[phil]: 00:44:31

now

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:31

out there doing this because like you said we need people

[phil]: 00:44:36

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:36

to to conduct their instruments in a proper to have that feel

[phil]: 00:44:42

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:42

where they where there is a drum there is a base guitar there is a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:47

guitar player and there is a singer if if the or if the guitar player

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:53

sings

[phil]: 00:44:54

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:54

i

[phil]: 00:44:54

don't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:54

don't care

[phil]: 00:44:54

care but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:55

but but

[phil]: 00:44:55

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:55

it's it's

[phil]: 00:44:56

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:44:56

it's meat and potatoes

[phil]: 00:44:59

hm ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:01

there was a friend of my who who records stuff and he said you re

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:04

you re a meetin potato

[phil]: 00:45:05

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:05

guy you want it simple you want it straight on and hell yeah i wanted

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:11

straight on i had a hard time listen to to stuff that that

[phil]: 00:45:17

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:17

it's too much

[phil]: 00:45:19

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:20

samples and too much all over the place with with

[phil]: 00:45:25

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:25

paterson and all that kind of ship i

[phil]: 00:45:28

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:28

wanted the real stuff where you you

[phil]: 00:45:31

go

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:31

go into a room together and and

[phil]: 00:45:33

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:33

you count count four and then you've fucking let it rip and and and you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:41

sweat there for a couple of hours now the rehearsal space and and then you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:46

look at one another and you think who

[phil]: 00:45:48

whoa

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:49

this is sucking the greatest thing ever man

[phil]: 00:45:52

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:53

and to be able to see

[phil]: 00:45:56

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:45:57

wolfgang van helen play together with david and the rest of the band i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:03

taylor hawkins was

[phil]: 00:46:04

thank

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:04

such

[phil]: 00:46:04

you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:05

huge friend

[phil]: 00:46:06

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:06

helen fan and to be able to

[phil]: 00:46:08

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:10

wolf gown doing those van helen songs

[phil]: 00:46:15

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:15

it's brought a tear to my eye have you seen it

[phil]: 00:46:19

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:21

oh it's great

[phil]: 00:46:22

i tried listen to some

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:23

it's

[phil]: 00:46:23

of that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:23

great

[phil]: 00:46:23

stuff um was mammoth v h or whatever it's called

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:28

yeah

[phil]: 00:46:28

and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:28

yeah

[phil]: 00:46:28

just i couldn't i couldn't get through it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:30

oh

[phil]: 00:46:31

so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:31

okay

[phil]: 00:46:32

so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:33

now i know i haven't listened that much to it but but i think that

[phil]: 00:46:39

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:39

it's it's he

[phil]: 00:46:41

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:41

knows his stuff and i'm happy about that uh he can really write some songs

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:48

and and and

[phil]: 00:46:49

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:49

play the instrument and he is a really decent singer too so i'm just happy

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:55

about ow about that

[phil]: 00:46:57

well there you go

[michael_c_svensson] 00:46:57

so yeah

[phil]: 00:46:59

there you go

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:00

you gotta get something else

[phil]: 00:47:01

i got one last thing and it's not

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:03

yeah

[phil]: 00:47:04

it's not on a positive note i'm afraid to say because

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:06

oh

[phil]: 00:47:06

because we sort of talked about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:08

they sort of talked

[phil]: 00:47:09

this

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:09

about

[phil]: 00:47:11

i think it might have been the last show of last year or the one

[phil]: 00:47:13

before we're talking brought up

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:16

what

[phil]: 00:47:16

umarolsmith and stephen

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:20

oh

[phil]: 00:47:20

tyler you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:21

oh

[phil]: 00:47:21

having to cancel all their shows and in vegas and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:23

mhm

[phil]: 00:47:23

stuff like that and you know are we beginning to see the end of that

[phil]: 00:47:27

era you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:28

ah

[phil]: 00:47:29

and as you know his tour keeps getting cancelled and he basically came out and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:34

a

[phil]: 00:47:34

said he just can't suck and walk any more and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:38

m

[phil]: 00:47:38

you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:39

m

[phil]: 00:47:39

so he does he's not sure when or if he'll be able

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:43

yes

[phil]: 00:47:43

to tour he says that his mind is there and his creativity is there that

[phil]: 00:47:48

he can still write seeing and stuff like that but he just can't get up

[phil]: 00:47:53

on stage any more so i fear

[michael_c_svensson] 00:47:57

yeah

[phil]: 00:47:57

that we're seeing the end of of aus o

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:02

yeah

[phil]: 00:48:02

yeah but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:04

i think that been

[phil]: 00:48:06

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:06

in the works for like a couple of years

[phil]: 00:48:09

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:09

i didn't

[phil]: 00:48:09

yeah i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:10

really

[phil]: 00:48:10

so too

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:10

think that he was coming back well

[phil]: 00:48:14

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:14

it's sad but but it's understandable

[phil]: 00:48:19

the dude's up there and honest

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:20

do

[phil]: 00:48:20

to god like i said this before it's amazing that dude is even still alive

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:24

yeah

[phil]: 00:48:25

and i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:25

yeah

[phil]: 00:48:26

say what you want about the last couple of records he's put out i mean

[phil]: 00:48:29

the fact that he's still putting out music that's still better

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:32

oh

[phil]: 00:48:32

than

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:32

yeah

[phil]: 00:48:33

some of the newer bands coming up in his

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:35

oh

[phil]: 00:48:35

condition

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:35

yeah

[phil]: 00:48:36

is just insane to me

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:38

it is

[phil]: 00:48:38

i mean this

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:39

it

[phil]: 00:48:39

last

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:39

is

[phil]: 00:48:39

record wasn't bad at all

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:41

no no no no

[phil]: 00:48:43

because

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:44

but it's

[phil]: 00:48:44

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:44

well m

[phil]: 00:48:47

yeah it's a shame

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:48

take a moment for let's take a moment for as

[phil]: 00:48:51

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:52

okay i'm done

[phil]: 00:48:54

and also heard geyser butler's got nemonia too and at that age

[michael_c_svensson] 00:48:58

oh shit

[phil]: 00:48:58

neumoniais not that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:00

no

[phil]: 00:49:01

good news so i don't know i don't know man

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:03

i don't know

[phil]: 00:49:04

i fear we're at that age where we are seeing the end of an era

[phil]: 00:49:10

come to a close

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:10

h

[phil]: 00:49:11

and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:11

m yeah

[phil]: 00:49:12

it's not good

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:12

i believe so too

[phil]: 00:49:13

but let's pick this ship

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:14

oh

[phil]: 00:49:14

out man we got music we got

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:16

yeah

[phil]: 00:49:16

we got

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:16

we

[phil]: 00:49:16

fucking

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:17

get

[phil]: 00:49:17

music

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:17

music

[phil]: 00:49:17

this week

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:18

so this is another swedish band of course

[phil]: 00:49:23

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:23

since i'm

[phil]: 00:49:25

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:26

doing all this but but it's it's this is great because we have we had

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:34

the ones on friends

[phil]: 00:49:36

red

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:36

of

[phil]: 00:49:36

mark

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:36

ours a great fucking punk rock band

[phil]: 00:49:40

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:40

old girl band and this is another one

[phil]: 00:49:46

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:46

and i just wanted

[phil]: 00:49:49

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:50

you you should pronounce you used to say the band name it's in squedish and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:55

we've been talking phil and i how

[phil]: 00:49:57

ho

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:57

how the fuck

[phil]: 00:49:58

at

[michael_c_svensson] 00:49:58

do we do this do we

[phil]: 00:50:00

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:00

do it in english or in swede and we

[phil]: 00:50:03

ye

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:04

both of it

[phil]: 00:50:05

right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:05

i think so

[phil]: 00:50:06

uh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:06

you go ahead and you start

[phil]: 00:50:09

uh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:11

you only said you saw

[phil]: 00:50:13

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:13

the band name and and this is what you came up with

[phil]: 00:50:17

yeah yurarta luck

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:21

i think that's cool

[phil]: 00:50:22

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:22

in in swedish it's

[phil]: 00:50:24

m oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:24

out

[phil]: 00:50:25

no okay

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:27

and this is also an old girl band from from almo swede where i'm located

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:34

and this is a really really cool band it's sour like

[phil]: 00:50:39

like no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:40

a mix between punk rock

[phil]: 00:50:42

buck

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:42

music and a sort of like alternative

[phil]: 00:50:45

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:45

and with some goth feel to it it's all over the place but still they're

[phil]: 00:50:51

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:52

kicking s and

[phil]: 00:50:53

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:53

taking names they

[phil]: 00:50:57

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:50:57

i think they they started only a couple of years ago like i can remember

[phil]: 00:51:03

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:04

when when i started out but it's they played a couple of shows they are

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:09

going to do release party for and this is we've been talking about this releasing

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:19

full length albums

[phil]: 00:51:21

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:21

it it what was common when you and i

[phil]: 00:51:25

it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:26

ere grown up we couldn't wait

[phil]: 00:51:28

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:28

to get the next maiden album a

[phil]: 00:51:31

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:31

full length album

[phil]: 00:51:33

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:33

of course we bought some some seven in single just to to

[phil]: 00:51:38

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:39

keep it like like fresh and real but i don't know two songs you have

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:45

to flip that one over you get tired of that but but nowadays to be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:50

current and

[phil]: 00:51:51

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:52

in all this noise white noise of all the bands the releasing music left and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:51:59

right you have to do something different so single it's what's up these days

[phil]: 00:52:06

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:07

if you want to if you're a mid range band and

[phil]: 00:52:09

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:09

you want to stay current

[phil]: 00:52:10

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:11

release singles that's that's the new thing but listen it is they made

[phil]: 00:52:18

i did

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:19

it even i mean quite different but still

[phil]: 00:52:24

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:25

with single releasing a new single every friday during two months

[phil]: 00:52:33

oh hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:36

every every friday you get a new single from this band

[phil]: 00:52:39

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:39

for for two months and and then they are having a release party on january

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:46

twentieth to celebrate all these songs that that they released isn't that a cool thing

[phil]: 00:52:52

i love it it's cool yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:54

yeah

[phil]: 00:52:55

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:52:55

it's different and it keeps them current everybody

[phil]: 00:53:00

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:00

is talking about them there on social media and and what not there getting interviewed

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:08

and podcast and so forth

[phil]: 00:53:09

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:09

because it's a different way to see to release music

[phil]: 00:53:15

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:15

ah and it's it's it's all in good fun i think

[phil]: 00:53:20

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:21

and and

[phil]: 00:53:21

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:23

well i don't

[phil]: 00:53:24

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:24

know what to say any more i mean to b a to still

[phil]: 00:53:28

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:29

release

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yes

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music like this band us and all go band and kick the living

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oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:37

ship out of you doing so uh i mean we have to play this song

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it's called orbit from

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oh

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phil what's

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god came pronounce

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what's

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it like you do your art

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yurartaor

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you

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at her

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at

[michael_c_svensson] 00:53:57

is orbit on sunsonvinal podcast let's go late rip

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oh that's fucking

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ah

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awesome fucking awesome

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you see

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you know

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yeah

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like

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i know

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for those that don't know

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those

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mike knows this but for those that don't know

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just

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way

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now

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back in the day that's how i met mike i used to do a radio

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show um we actually had several

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actually

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music based odcast and there was a punk band

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i

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that had a similar vibe to this band and it's just i love it because

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like you said it's it's kind of a lot of different genres

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yes

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all put together into one

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yeah

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and they make it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:54:35

yeah

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raking a lot of bands try that and it doesn't

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yeah

[phil]: 00:54:39

work they

[michael_c_svensson] 00:54:41

yeah

[phil]: 00:54:41

somehow somehow pulled it off and made it work is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:54:44

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:54:45

well dan yeah definitely

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yeah and and it's it's

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so

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so it's so crazy because this is what we've been talking about actually for the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:54:56

last hour about the real

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yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:54:59

deal if you know what i mean

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hm

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i mean

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m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:03

for

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i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:04

people going in to rehearsal

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i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:06

space and and just

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ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:08

fucking let it rip and and they've been able to capture that on a tape

[phil]: 00:55:15

ye

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and and they released it and it sounds so fresh and it's it's

[phil]: 00:55:22

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:23

it kicks you in the ah well you know you know

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it's

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so

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awesome

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:28

check them out shake them out on social media gurarta

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oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:34

that's the english name and in swedish it's alta and they're for malmo sweden

[phil]: 00:55:39

yeah yeah

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well take a listen to them they re

[phil]: 00:55:44

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:44

ononspotify and what not

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yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:47

and if you're in malmo around january twentieth go

[phil]: 00:55:52

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:52

see this band i've been and some clips on youtube and i'm going myself

[phil]: 00:55:58

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:55:58

hopefully there is not

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oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:00

a thing that i have to do that day but still fucking hell i'm going

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:05

to keep my eyes open for this band

[phil]: 00:56:06

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:07

so

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hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:08

give them some lot of hook them up

[phil]: 00:56:10

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:10

by their stuff and end well keeping

[phil]: 00:56:14

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:15

the rock and roll or punk rock alive

[phil]: 00:56:17

there you go

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:17

there we go

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there

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:18

that's

[phil]: 00:56:19

you go

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it

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and before we get away from this old girl band mike and i

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hm

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have been teasing the idea

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:26

m

[phil]: 00:56:27

of m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:29

yes

[phil]: 00:56:29

doing a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:30

yes

[phil]: 00:56:31

female rock

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:32

he lost

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punk kind of special might

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so

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be a documentary it might just be a sounds on final episode we're not quite

[phil]: 00:56:40

sure what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:41

i

[phil]: 00:56:41

we're going to do with it but we feel

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:42

the

[phil]: 00:56:42

like there's

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i yes

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a lot of great female musicians out there that really don't get the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:48

oh

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credit

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:48

yeah

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that they deserve and and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:50

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:56:51

so we want to we want to do something to kind of put that out

[phil]: 00:56:53

there so stay tuned for that as we kind of develop this a little more

[phil]: 00:56:58

will keep you guys updated

[michael_c_svensson] 00:56:59

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:56:59

but i'm pretty excited about this i think it's going to be fun

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:03

me too

[phil]: 00:57:04

all right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:04

oh it's going to be great

[phil]: 00:57:05

and with that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:06

what

[phil]: 00:57:07

it no more

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:08

that's it

[phil]: 00:57:09

that's it we'll let you suckers get back to whatever

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:11

but

[phil]: 00:57:11

it is you were

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:12

whatever

[phil]: 00:57:12

doing before you stopped everything you were doing to listen to this show because i

[phil]: 00:57:16

know that's what you do every week

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:17

yeah

[phil]: 00:57:18

and we think you for giving us your

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:20

yeah

[phil]: 00:57:20

ears every week to listen to this show and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:23

oh

[phil]: 00:57:23

we really appreciate all the support and this year as mike said in the beginning

[phil]: 00:57:28

we've got some cool stuff planning and a new website i keep

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:32

he

[phil]: 00:57:32

talking about that it's just it's taken longer than i wanted but yeah lots of

[phil]: 00:57:38

cool stuff in the works

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:39

in the works

[phil]: 00:57:39

and so go check out the website sounds on final dot com you can listen

[phil]: 00:57:44

to the episode subscribe

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:45

you

[phil]: 00:57:46

wherever you listen

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:46

i

[phil]: 00:57:46

to podcasts and watch the video to onsonzovinal dot com

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:50

oh yeah

[phil]: 00:57:51

so yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:53

that's it

[phil]: 00:57:54

that's it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:55

yes

[phil]: 00:57:55

all right later

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:57

later

[phil]: 00:57:58

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:57:58

yeah

[phil]: 00:58:03

damn it