Vinyl Sales, Rolling Stone’s Top 200 Singers, Iggy Pop in AC/DC , Danzig sings Elvis (S7 E22)

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[phil]:

hey hey this is the sounds on final show the only show in the freaking

[phil]:

world that will make your ears bleed this week we've got as tony ione nita

[phil]:

straus ike pop c d c and some ship about vinal so we'll be right

[phil]:

back to make your ears bleed yeah hey hey my name as always is phil

[phil]:

boyer and from across the vast open seas where the vikings once ruled is my

[phil]:

brother from another mother professor rock star extraordinary let singer of bands past prison future

[phil]:

mike fence and mike what the hell is going on

[michael_c_svensson] 00:00:47

oh it's going good it's it's so much to do being going to be opening

[michael_c_svensson] 00:00:53

the record story in a couple of months so i'm buying a ship load of

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:00:57

albums putting up shelves on and and

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:01

doing the best i can to make the place look really good so

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:06

it's going to be a lot of fun

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:08

this sounds on final record story

[phil]:

yeah you sent me a picture before we started recording here and it's looking

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:13

m

[phil]:

it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:13

yeah

[phil]:

shaping up and it's looking it's looking

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:15

it's

[phil]:

good

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:16

up yeah

[phil]:

it's looking good

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:17

all right

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:18

it is cool or okay so i just want to start since i'm the vinal

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:25

guy vinal nord or

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:27

whatever the heck we want to call me i got a d m talking about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:34

how to differ between how to tell the difference between newly

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:40

pressed album and an old one so

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:44

i

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:46

i tried to explain this because for me it's so like yeah well you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:52

it's just look at the record

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:55

and what not then i had to explain

[phil]:

at

[michael_c_svensson] 00:01:57

and i had to send pictures even

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:00

so we've talked about this

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:02

a lot of times before especially with with soren

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:08

who is the ultimate vinal nord the book called all about final or in

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:17

scandinavian altum venue

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:20

so i got a little album hair

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:23

and the way for you to tell because

[phil]:

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:27

they're sneaky sometimes the new or pressings they

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:31

tend to look exactly

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:34

like the old one so what you need to do is to take your

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:40

your your album here

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:43

your vinal record and then you look

[phil]:

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:47

for this it's the called the run out grove here so in there it's sort

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:53

of like a mirror thing where you see all the groves that go right up

[michael_c_svensson] 00:02:59

until the end here

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:01

then you get some sort of like a blank spot here and here's numbers and

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:07

and if you look at

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:08

those real closely

[phil]:

it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:11

it it's it's there is

[phil]:

the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:15

at some on some albums

[phil]:

yet

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:18

there is even inscriptions

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:21

from the guys that have

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:24

has remostered the album or or cut the album and the tentially

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:30

their initials so we talked about this

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:33

with robert ludwig who did the

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:36

sapling to and done kiss alive he has r

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:40

l in his markings on right next student you can find some numbers on this

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:48

one it says two three nine one two two four

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:53

five one dash three so and this is a rainbow album

[phil]:

right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:03:59

right here

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:00

and with that number

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:02

you can tell whether it's new york pressing

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:06

or or an old one original if that's what you're looking for and and the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:12

best suggestion that i have is

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:14

go on a page called disco

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:18

disco

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:19

dot com and then you can

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:21

see all the listings for all the releases

[phil]:

my

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:26

and an artist have done with that kelly album so so that's it that's what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:35

you need to look for the matrix

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:37

numbers in the rana grub

[phil]:

there you go

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:40

there you go that's my five cents on renal records today

[phil]:

awesome hey and speaking of

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:47

it is

[phil]:

final records so they

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:50

hm

[phil]:

are on the rise sales are on the rise of final records which

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:54

oh

[phil]:

is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:54

yeah

[phil]:

your year

[michael_c_svensson] 00:04:55

yes

[phil]:

year the sales from twenty one to twenty twenty two are up three point eight

[phil]:

percent three point eight percent two point two million records were sold during the last

[phil]:

week of december right before christmas compared to only two point one in the year

[phil]:

before twenty twenty one um and it usually pops right before christmas obviously people are

[phil]:

buying final his presence and stuff like that but that's pretty

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:24

yeah

[phil]:

slick so three almost four percent man that's awesome

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:28

yeah i tried to explain this to to ordinary

[phil]:

ye

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:35

disturbed people

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:38

uh that

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:40

just just to get a grip on

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:43

on how big vinal records

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:46

are today for the general person when aba did their reunion the aba voyage album

[michael_c_svensson] 00:05:56

they released that one on both on sid and on final

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:01

and this is a band that hasn't released an album in forty years s

[phil]:

right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:07

so they decided to do some new tracks and and release a new album now

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:14

the pressing plants here in europe they were all booked by aba

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:21

cause they pre ordered a million copies

[phil]:

jes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:27

a million copies

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:29

for their brand new album

[phil]:

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:33

so and that hasn't been done since the nineties i mean i mean units for

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:39

for ilium for aba or you tube or

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:42

the rolling stones that's that's that's

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:45

peanuts in the nineties but this is like two thousand and twenty one thousand and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:51

twenty two i mean a million units gee

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:56

re ordering a

[phil]:

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:06:57

million units so and how did it go h i think it was sort of

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:04

like two and a half weeks they sold out

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:08

a million units

[phil]:

damn

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:09

and they had to repress it

[phil]:

damn

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:12

and the english artist adele it's more like in the pobulagena i mean abbey is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:20

an older band five hundred thousand

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:25

copies

[phil]:

even that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:27

pre

[phil]:

too much

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:27

ordered

[phil]:

well no i didn't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:28

yet

[phil]:

say anything

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:29

even though well you see i mean abe million units

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:34

and adele i mean a smaller artist the nabob five hundred units that i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:43

that's insane

[phil]:

it is yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:47

so so that's how big vina list nowadays

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:51

so it's cooler

[phil]:

yeah that's cool

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:54

oh

[phil]:

it's awesome

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:57

yeah

[phil]:

it's good for

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:57

so what's

[phil]:

you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:57

going on in the news

[phil]:

it's good for you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:59

it's

[phil]:

with

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:59

good

[phil]:

the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:07:59

for me

[phil]:

yeah with

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:00

oh

[phil]:

the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:00

yeah

[phil]:

record star

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:01

oh oh yeah

[phil]:

sure

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:03

oh yeah fuck it it's crazy

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:08

i love it

[phil]:

all right what t do you got on the news front what's on your list

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:12

oh yeah

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:15

here's here's a different different thing that i heard about

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:20

read about

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:21

gie pop was

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:23

asked

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:24

to join a

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:25

c d c

[phil]:

bullshit

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:27

at some point

[phil]:

i call bullshit

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:29

what yeah i think i think so too i mean didn't quite understand if

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:37

there wasn't a real

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:41

request about that i mean did he get

[phil]:

ye

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:44

the call from angus

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:46

hey when you join i mean what's up with that what kind of news is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:51

that

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:08:52

would would would they even consider one another

[phil]:

i it's just that's not a good fit i can't imagine that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:00

no

[phil]:

but that just now now i've seen there's a lot of people are coming out

[phil]:

what i was to be part of this band and you know it's like okay

[phil]:

that's easy to say twenty years later like you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:12

yeah

[phil]:

you probably

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:13

yeah

[phil]:

had that in a drug induced dream or some ship that never fucking happened

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:17

yeah

[phil]:

i copilshit on a lot

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:18

no

[phil]:

of this stuff

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:20

yeah

[phil]:

you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:21

but why would pop i mean his career is i mean

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:25

it's it's almost bigger than c d c i mean all the ship that he's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:30

done i mean or

[phil]:

ye

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:32

i mean similar but why would they let

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:36

go to i mean that it's insane he's a punk rock icon and

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:40

and is it is or like a

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:42

blues

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:44

can roll band

[phil]:

it just

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:45

so

[phil]:

doesn't doesn't work doesn't fit

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:47

it doesn't doesn't fit

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:48

at all

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:50

so it's nuts

[phil]:

like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:52

we call bullshit down

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:09:53

that one

[phil]:

yeah i mean if you're going to go for a punk rock icon feel like

[phil]:

somebody like glen danzig would fit c d c lot better

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:02

oh

[phil]:

you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:02

yeah

[phil]:

know that i could see

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:04

yeah

[phil]:

actually you know what if instead of axel rose i feel like lyndangsig would have

[phil]:

been ave better pick to go on on tour with a c d c his

[phil]:

last rout but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:16

could you hear him a lot of rose

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:22

yeah

[phil]:

it's no more like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:24

m

[phil]:

elves

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:27

have you heard dancing sing his elves

[phil]:

oh god it's bad

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:30

he did and

[phil]:

it's so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:31

oh

[phil]:

bad

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:32

it's horrible

[phil]:

so i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:35

oh

[phil]:

i love danzigdangsis you know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:37

oh me

[phil]:

his

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:38

too

[phil]:

career with the misfits

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:39

and miss

[phil]:

and all

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:39

fits

[phil]:

that i mean come on sam

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:41

oh

[phil]:

and of course

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:42

jess

[phil]:

dancing but now that was that was i don't know man

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:47

yeah

[phil]:

i don't know i don't know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:50

i remember sitting down and try and

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:53

so i'm going

[phil]:

right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:10:54

really on to listen to this i'm sorry oh shit i mean is this for

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:02

real but

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:04

i couldn't i mean two or three songs saying that i had to stop it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:09

was i don't know

[phil]:

no i see i'm not an vis fan but i am a danzig fan and

[phil]:

that said

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:15

yeah

[phil]:

i've made my feelings known about l vi and i would rather listen to all

[phil]:

those elis songs by elvas singing them than danzig trying to do those it was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:24

yeah

[phil]:

it's just

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:26

and i'm an im a nail of this fan and i thought it was i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:29

mean

[phil]:

it was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:30

really

[phil]:

just

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:30

horrible

[phil]:

it wasn't good it was not good

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:32

oh

[phil]:

not good

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:33

man

[phil]:

at all

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:34

no

[phil]:

now

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:35

no

[phil]:

but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:35

oh

[phil]:

speaking

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:36

crap

[phil]:

of singers

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:38

hm

[phil]:

fucking rolling stone have you seen this bullshit they put out with their top singers

[phil]:

what is it like five hundred or two hunter greatest singer list

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:48

oh

[phil]:

yeah well oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:51

have they done it

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:53

themselves

[phil]:

yeah the rolling stone magazine

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:55

yeah

[phil]:

they put out their two hundred greatest singers list and i'm going to go through

[michael_c_svensson] 00:11:59

okay

[phil]:

here and i'm going to share just just the rock based singers off the list

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:05

all right

[phil]:

so number twelve john lennon

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:12

okay

[phil]:

number fourteen freddy mercury i know you're not a freddy mercury fan but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:19

oh but

[phil]:

but to

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:20

fourteen

[phil]:

have him

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:21

geese

[phil]:

him underneath john lennon

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:25

jesus

[phil]:

no a twenty eight palma cartney thirty two

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:30

okay

[phil]:

david boy again david boy is an icon but a great singer

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:36

yeah

[phil]:

i don't know mick jagger

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:39

oh

[phil]:

he's number fifty two um

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:45

jesus

[phil]:

m okay number sixty three robert plant robert plants all the way at sixty three

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:53

oh my god

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:12:54

who seemed to top

[phil]:

i don't know that i don't know chris cornell chris fucking cornell number eighty steve

[phil]:

perry

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:01

jesus

[phil]:

eighty two eddy venter eddie fucking veter that dude can't sing

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:08

uh

[phil]:

sounds like he's having a fucking seizure when

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:10

uh

[phil]:

he sings what the hell one o five one o nine is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:15

oh

[phil]:

roger dultry roger

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:17

jesus

[phil]:

adultery is underneath fucking eddie vetter and chris cornell are you fucking serious ouse

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:25

jes

[phil]:

is that one twelve rob halford

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:29

oh man

[phil]:

rob halford one twenty nine rob alford is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:33

ah

[phil]:

under eddivetter and chris cornell are you fucking kidding me with that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:38

it

[phil]:

axel rose

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:39

jesus

[phil]:

one thirty four ronnie

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:43

oh

[phil]:

james fucking deo one sixty five one sixty five

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:49

what

[phil]:

they put

[michael_c_svensson] 00:13:50

the fuck

[phil]:

they put all these assholes on top wealth not all as holes i take that

[phil]:

back but fucking ronnie dios way under one is that one sixty five we way

[phil]:

towards the bottom of this two hundred list this is that too

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:02

oh

[phil]:

honored

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:03

my

[phil]:

so they thought

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:04

gosh

[phil]:

he was only in like the bottom like quarter of this list it's fucking bullshit

[phil]:

ike pop we were just talking about pop one seventy six bob segar one eighty

[phil]:

one and we also talked about danzig he is at one ninety nine just barely

[phil]:

got in there under the two hundred i read this and i couldn't bear to

[phil]:

listen to to take a peek at the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:27

oh

[phil]:

top

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:28

my

[phil]:

ten

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:28

god

[phil]:

i have no idea s in the top ten but that list is fucking bullshit

[phil]:

you got bruce dickinson

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:34

oh my

[phil]:

is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:34

god

[phil]:

not on there jeff tate when his heyday was phenomenal singer not on their

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:40

yeah

[phil]:

it's just it's fucking it's sick man like who the fuck came up with this

[phil]:

list

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:46

jesus christ

[phil]:

fuck rolling stone i'm gonna say that funk you rolling stone fucking ridiculous

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:54

i mean it is it is ridiculous

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:14:58

i mean jesus christ

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:01

now now i'm curious i have have

[phil]:

you have

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:03

to

[phil]:

to

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:03

know

[phil]:

go look

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:05

i have to go look man

[phil]:

it's i don't know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:08

jess

[phil]:

it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:10

it's a fucking insane list

[phil]:

an and for

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:13

jesus

[phil]:

being

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:13

christ

[phil]:

on aus is not a great singer it works

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:17

no

[phil]:

it works for sabbath it works for his solo stuff but i mean no no

[phil]:

man no it's just

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:30

up twenty real quick

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:34

twenty is marvin gay nineteen

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:37

frank senatra

[phil]:

frank senate didn't even fucking sing he talked singed

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:42

eight eightingselia cruise

[phil]:

i don't even know who the fun that is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:48

no seventeen albs sixteen prince he's not even in the top town jesus oh my

[michael_c_svensson] 00:15:59

god

[phil]:

how

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:00

number fifteen bob dan in the bas mix

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:04

men's man the payment fred mercury fourteen jesus christ patsy cline thirteen oh my god

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:14

little richard eleven okay all green number ten this reading nine

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:22

beyond c eight

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:25

t v wonder okay i can see it at number seven

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:28

ray chars

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:29

number six maria carry number five

[phil]:

like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:34

oh my god

[phil]:

jesus christ

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:36

really holiday number four okay i can see that sam cook number three whitney houston

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:44

number two

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:46

and the number one singer of all times okay i can i can buy that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:50

read to franklin but jesus christ prince not even in the top town oh

[phil]:

and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:16:59

my god

[phil]:

there were so many that along on that list you know from the days

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:03

oh yeah

[phil]:

of the blues and all that like i'm sorry but beyond say are you fucking

[phil]:

kidding me really especially higher than ronnie do are you fucking

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:11

oh

[phil]:

kidding me the fact that ronny deal wasn't even in the top five

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:16

oh

[phil]:

on that list i mean that's a fucking joke it's a fucking joke

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:20

it is

[phil]:

fuck you rolling stone

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:21

it is

[phil]:

i'm going to say it again

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:23

uh uh oh man

[phil]:

n fact that's gonna be the title show fuck you rolling stone oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:32

there you go okay i'm i'm smoothing things out a bit i'm talking about because

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:39

we're planning on doing a women special of rock we're talking about this so i'm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:48

gonna sneak peak a bit and and drawing a guitar player that i had had

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:55

my eyes on for for quite some time name

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:17:58

is nita straus used to play with with alice cooper for like several years i

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:05

think six or seven years at least but then she decided to try something different

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:13

and i think she's playing with demilovato

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:17

a a right now but she's releasing solar stuff for self and it's it's it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:26

more metal and hard rock than dendmilovado

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:29

e even did a thing with

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:34

oh my god sir and white glose from from our enemy i can remember first

[phil]:

alis

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:41

name

[phil]:

lisa lisa

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:43

lisa alicia white

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:44

as they did a thing together and i think it's it's cool because this is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:50

a young guitar player a woman that has been trying to to get noticed for

[michael_c_svensson] 00:18:59

such a long time

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:00

and all of a sudden alis cooper

[phil]:

ye

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:02

cesar and things that wow this this could work really well and to see that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:09

there are platforms for young women to take a stand and and

[phil]:

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:16

make something of themselves with like music or or theater or whatever but like this

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:24

and in the rock and roll industry where is a lot of guys playing tar

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:31

in bands on an and what not so to be able to to to be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:38

like some sort of like guitar hair or because

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:40

she has clinics have seen online

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:43

and there is a lot the younger kids especially young girls

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:49

that

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:50

tend to her clinic

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:51

and look up to her so i think that's that's a great thing

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:19:56

and she's got to i knew all of them coming out so so that's that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:01

going to be cool so we're going to talk more about women in and in

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:05

rock and rolled in in the future hero an

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:09

so

[phil]:

yes that's in the it's in the works we're not quite sure what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:13

yes

[phil]:

that's going to look like it might end up being just an

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:15

no

[phil]:

episode or might be a little many documentary like our sweden rock dock enter which

[phil]:

if you haven't seen

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:21

yeah

[phil]:

go check it out there's be a link in the description but yeah yeah looking

[phil]:

forward to that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:28

cool

[phil]:

yeah you got something on your on your news list that i also picked so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:34

oh cool let's go

[phil]:

tony omi

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:37

do it only one man

[phil]:

sabbath yes what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:41

the riff moster

[phil]:

more re issues come in our way from black sabbath the tony martin era

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:47

yeah

[phil]:

i guess they're going to re release

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:49

yeah

[phil]:

and apparently

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:51

a

[phil]:

he's writing a new record

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:55

oh oh

[phil]:

do

[michael_c_svensson] 00:20:57

do we want a new record for ntoniaomi

[phil]:

yeah

[phil]:

yeah i think i do

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:08

i think so too

[phil]:

i think so too i mean the dude has got i mean you've heard the

[phil]:

rumors you know he's got like all these rifts in a box somewhere in his

[phil]:

vault right he's got rift after rift after rift most haven't even seen the light

[phil]:

of day i mean i bet you if he released an album of just rifts

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:31

uh

[phil]:

he would fucking sell

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:32

uh

[phil]:

it would sound

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:33

yeah

[phil]:

because

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:34

yeah

[phil]:

i mean tthe dude is he's definitely up there he's got that signature sound that

[phil]:

nobody has been able to replicate many of try but you know there's nobody can

[phil]:

nobody's tony nobody can do that oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:50

you know what what i just figure i mean wouldn't it be cool to do

[michael_c_svensson] 00:21:57

it i would love a buck set from that guy

[phil]:

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:01

from like the get go from from the beginning where he started out doing demos

[phil]:

h

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:08

i would listen to that

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:09

in an instant

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:10

i mean and i would bet that

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:13

he's an english dude i mean it wouldn't cost a million dollars for him to

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:19

release that i mean we would we would see that up with our mating i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:26

mean sorry for motor head and and and those bands for for a lot like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:33

beneath the hundred dollars for

[phil]:

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:35

for a box set so i think that be cool i mean could you imagine

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:43

here in

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:43

those first demos that he did for earth

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:48

i mean fuck in hell or even i mean even demos for the first sabbath

[michael_c_svensson] 00:22:55

albums paranoid and and what not jesus

[phil]:

yeah i mean you could go on youtube and you can hear some of those

[phil]:

early earth demos and and some

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:06

yeah

[phil]:

even like the it was sort of that in between between earth and sabbath and

[phil]:

man that stuff is so dark

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:15

yeah

[phil]:

and heavy and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:16

it is

[phil]:

it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:17

yeah

[phil]:

it's what a time that was yeah that would be that would be awesome to

[phil]:

see

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:24

that would be a thing

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:25

man

[phil]:

that'd be

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:26

fuck

[phil]:

slack

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:27

in hell oh man to

[phil]:

so

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:31

it's

[phil]:

yeah i think

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:32

a mean

[phil]:

i want a record i think i could

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:34

yeah

[phil]:

go for some new music you know especially

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:36

yeah

[phil]:

if he did some collaborations i mean funk if robert plant did guest vocals on

[phil]:

there or something or

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:44

oh

[phil]:

like

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:44

man

[phil]:

roger daltree or some of those old guys you know from the sixties and seventies

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:48

yeah

[phil]:

that would be slick

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:51

and

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:52

antony feels like a guy who wouldn't release any music if it wasn't good

[phil]:

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:59

i mean

[phil]:

ye

[michael_c_svensson] 00:23:59

if he if he thought well i need more money in my bank account

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:05

so i need to force myself to do another album that's not tony

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:09

that's not tony at all so i'm thinking that when he decides to release this

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:15

album it's going to be good

[phil]:

yes yeh so hopefully it will happen hopefully we'll see it because that will

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:21

yeah

[phil]:

be slick yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:22

oh man colors

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:25

so what's what's else into

[phil]:

that's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:26

news

[phil]:

all i got man that's it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:28

that's all you

[phil]:

it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:29

got

[phil]:

it it was

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:29

damn

[phil]:

it was slow man you know i think the holiday slowed things down a little

[phil]:

bit

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:34

yeah

[phil]:

everybody's kind of taken a breather but

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:37

yeah

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:40

i just want to mention the thing because because i got a new generation here

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:46

at home

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:47

with my masons is turning into a big medal

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:52

so we're listening to a documentary about natalia and because he wants to know everything

[michael_c_svensson] 00:24:58

at the moment he wants to go see them he wants to listen to all

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:02

the albums and he is wearing t shirts and he's

[phil]:

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:07

he's looking through red lightning

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:11

kill them all and most or puppets

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:14

pictures

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:15

so far it's all the chit that dot i am

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:18

saved from back into day so we're listening to this documentary on swedish radio

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:25

and gets to the point where they talk about dave mitaine

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:32

and they talk about him starting to drink and i became angry and violent

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:39

and so forth and then all of a sudden they decided to do fire this

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:45

guy and then they

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:47

moved along and in the show and and all of a sudden they are talking

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:51

about the big four

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:54

which hit gothenburg

[phil]:

he

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:58

with

[phil]:

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:25:58

slayer and megatethaand metallic and athrixandand i explained to him as

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:06

you remember that guy who got fired right before they released our first album yeah

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:14

his name was dave mustane

[phil]:

a

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:16

and he formed a band called megateth

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:20

which is part of the big four played together with metallic slayer and and outhraks

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:30

oh that's cool and you know what he still cries

[phil]:

my

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:35

to this

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:36

day for not being in metallic at what yeah he actually cries it was just

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:44

a couple of

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:44

months ago he cannot swallow that still that he got fired from italica but he

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:53

played

[phil]:

what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:54

in front of sixty five thousand in gothenburg together

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:26:59

with with his former band mates together with slayer together we anthrax because he is

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:07

in a band that he formed himself which is called the big four and you

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:14

heard him go quiet a bit

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:19

is he stupid

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:22

i said

[phil]:

okay

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:24

well

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:25

i'm just giving you the fact i'm giving you the fact so we talked about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:31

this

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:32

because i saw that that they're planning on undoing another album and he's been struggling

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:39

with cancer or what not but and we talked about this

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:45

because

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:47

i got a chance to buy a couple of metal albums

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:52

and and

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:54

p elson who's buying what was

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:27:56

and that makes for the store and and i showed him and the picture and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:04

the art work and so forth which i think is really cool by the way

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:08

not the music so much but the art work

[phil]:

ah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:11

and we came to talk about this and and

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:14

we we compared all all this i mean

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:19

mayhem that that was in the in the eighties with all the record carvers and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:23

all the metal heads that that like you and i right with our bikes and

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:32

meeting up and with friends and so forth having

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:35

our boom box and so forth and megadet

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:38

was in that

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:38

mix because it was also

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:41

in the eighties so he did have

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:46

pretty great career and still has one if i'm not mistaken i don't know i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:53

think megatix is still around

[phil]:

yeah they just put out a new

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:55

so

[phil]:

record or they're about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:57

yeah

[phil]:

to

[michael_c_svensson] 00:28:58

okay

[phil]:

one of the two

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:00

i wanted to do yeah i'm not keeping track so but but it's strange

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:05

to to hear

[phil]:

ye

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:08

and and there was an expert on metallic on this documentary and she said the

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:14

same thing he just and let this go still today he just cannot let

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:21

it go that he was fired but it's

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:26

it's i mean if that was it for him i would understand but but it's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:33

it's

[phil]:

you know what

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:35

i mean it's

[phil]:

he's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:35

incense

[phil]:

one of those narsisists that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:40

ah

[phil]:

he's like trump and elon mosk and these guys that

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:44

oh

[phil]:

think that they're that they're the best thing that ever happened to the world and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:29:50

yeah

[phil]:

the he canes megadeth yes he's had a good career megadeth has made a name

[phil]:

it's it's a it's a big band but it's still a piss in the bucket

[phil]:

compared to metallica

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:05

uh

[phil]:

and he can't he can't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:07

uh

[phil]:

accept

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:07

yeah

[phil]:

that he can't

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:09

yeah

[phil]:

he can't accept that he's not as good as metallica is now if if if

[phil]:

he was bigger than metal we would still hear about it because he would say

[phil]:

you know metallic made the mistake and they fired me and look how big i

[phil]:

am and look how small they are it's just his

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:26

yeah

[phil]:

personality he will never let it go because he's a fucking seis psychopath that thinks

[phil]:

he's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:32

oh

[phil]:

more talented than he is and he just needs to suck and move on or

[phil]:

i don't know we all need to move on you can send all your

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:39

yeah

[phil]:

hate mail to me if you want

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:41

yeah

[phil]:

but that's just my

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:43

yeah

[phil]:

my interpretation of dave mistaine i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:45

yeah

[phil]:

i don't know

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:49

but but it's strange because because

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:53

i'm trying to i mean it's not that i'm not moving along because i really

[michael_c_svensson] 00:30:59

don't care but

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:00

but since i mean this is a new documentary

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:05

swedish national

[phil]:

i

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:06

radio and they talk

[phil]:

m

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:08

about this the way that we talk about it more diploma

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:13

of course because it's natural radio but still they have to mention it if if

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:19

that was the case that there was it's just a blip in history map when

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:26

he talked about metallic they wouldn't mention it all so this dude they was saying

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:32

he got fired

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:33

because he was drunk and hit people and he got angry and he couldn't play

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:39

his inter instrument moving along with the metallic history no then the

[phil]:

right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:45

expert

[phil]:

uh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:47

expert on the talk comes in and she says well

[phil]:

oh

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:52

m this is my interpretation of the whole thing

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:56

and she has the same feelings that we

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:31:59

do more

[phil]:

hm

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:00

diblematie of course still but it's it's still to this day

[phil]:

no

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:07

i mean won't go away because he won't go away

[phil]:

no no and those kind of people they don't they run a lot of things

[phil]:

that they touch and they don't see it that way they don't see that that

[phil]:

it's that it's on them you know you look at what you know to really

[phil]:

go off topic here you look at what elan musk has done to twitter and

[phil]:

then the two months he's

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:35

yeah

[phil]:

been at the helm i mean it's a dempster fire you know he's getting

[michael_c_svensson] 00:32:38

yeah

[phil]:

the headquarters he's getting advicted from you know in two months he's set this thing

[phil]:

so far much on fire you know who knows what's going to happen i don't

[phil]:

know i mean he's going to have he's going a have to bring somebody in

[phil]:

you look at trump and say what you want about his politics but the dude's

[phil]:

bankrupted pretty much every single company he's overstarted these guys are there they can't see

[phil]:

reality right and i think they've mistained the same way he can't see reality he

[phil]:

can't see that had metallic kept in the band there would be no metallica today

[phil]:

we wouldn't have had we might have had writ the lightning but we wouldn't have

[phil]:

had anything past that we wouldn't have had a third fourth they wouldn't be the

[phil]:

biggest fan that they are today um so i mean that said it's not that

[phil]:

bad because then we wouldn't have had the black album so that version of history

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:35

you had to go there fucking

[phil]:

yeah

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:38

ell you had to go there

[phil]:

but but enough about

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:40

oh

[phil]:

that enough

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:41

man

[phil]:

about that guy i mean

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:42

no

[phil]:

it is you know it is what it is you know and

[michael_c_svensson] 00:33:47

yeah

[phil]:

and you know just we have we have metallica and they seem to be going

[phil]:

on a better troductory these days of doing better uh you know heavier music and

[phil]:

not the poppy based they were doing there for a while in the nineties and

[phil]:

early two thousand so i don't know we'll see it's an evolution for sure

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:05

we'll see yeah

[phil]:

yep

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:07

you can follow everything here on the sand so vile

[phil]:

right

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:11

we're talking more

[phil]:

yes

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:12

metallic

[phil]:

yes and with that i guess it's time

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:17

what

[phil]:

to get the fuck out of here unless you got some last words

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:19

it is no

[phil]:

that's it

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:21

no last words

[phil]:

all right so until next week go listen to some megadethlater

[michael_c_svensson] 00:34:28

later

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